Written on April 22, 2008 – 7:52 am
Boris Veldhuijzen van Zanten,
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One of the theories discussed at the Alt Search Engines meeting was that the competition for Search Engines might not just be in different, faster or better search engines but in alternative ways of finding information.
The AllTh.at team
One example is Smart Agents like AllTh.at and Google Alerts. Lots of people use Google Alerts to keep them up-to-date of new information. AllTh.at saves your searches and keeps looking for new results and notifies you via email or RSS. Previously users might have used search engines to find new information. Now there is a continuously updating search query active in the background that notifies us of new results.
Services such as Symbaloo and Netvibes make it easier to manage lots of information. This makes it easier to browse the web and find stuff. For a lot of people Google is THE portal to the web. They don’t use bookmarks or even URLs but simply open a browser, wait for Google to appear and type in what they need. As portal services (like Symbaloo) gain traction people will be less inclined to use Google to navigate the web.
What are the alternatives to Google?
A third example are the vertical search engines. You can use Google to search for words but it is more logical to use a dedicated dictionary search engine like Answers.com and a car search engine like UsedCars.com. The vertical search engines are becoming more popular every day and more verticals appear left and right.
Can you think of more ways to get to information without using Google? WikiPedia is a good alternative to Google is you are looking for specific information. What other alternatives are there?
Written on April 21, 2008 – 10:51 pm
Ernst-Jan Pfauth, editor in chief
We keep running into people who are making interesting search applications. Like Laurent Baleydier, the CEO of KartOO technologies. Over a coffee at the altsearchengines day, he told us that KartOO specializes in visualizing internet and intranet data to improve the accessibility of search engines. The techniques are developed in the French University Labs in Clermont, France.
Next Web editor Boris and KartOO president Laurent Beleydier
KartOO runs three search engines. KartOO.com - a free Meta search engine that allows you to find your results trough in interactive map -, UJIKO.com - a social thumbs up/down engine -, and KVisu.com - a rather spectacular engine that shows your search data as a land map.
The engines have at least one thing in common: impressive graphics. Whether it’s your style or not, you can’t deny that KartOO understands that you have to spoil the eyes when it comes to visualization. Some other search engines, like Quintura, seem to forget that.
I also like the fact that KartOO uses the engines of Yahoo and Google, since a lot of people are still a bit hesitated to use another engine than Google. The alt search engines are really important, as they are the pioneers who invent our search future. Yet when it comes to a quick search, people still use the search giant. When services like KartOO build on the strength of Google and make it a richer tool, I think they have a better chance to bridge the gap between Google and alternative search engines.
Written on April 21, 2008 – 8:39 pm
Ernst-Jan Pfauth, editor in chief
Our white suits work. Alex Pachikov walked up to me a few minutes ago, asking what the overdressing was about. I’m glad he did, as he’s the director of Evernote, a promising start-up that made me enthusiastic the second Alex showed it on my Mac. The uber-stylish and modern design expresses what the service is about: creating a visual notebook to memorize anything you stumbled on.
Alex Pachikov from Evernote.com
You can do that by downloading their desktop and mobile app. Make a picture or a screenshot and sync it with the website - where you can look up the notebook. You can then use it as one big library of things to remember, but I think Evernote also functions perfectly as some sort of mood board. I used to have an ‘Inspiration’ album in iPhoto, yet Evernote will definitely replace this. Especially as your notebook is available off line as well.
Also digging the idea already? It’s getting better. Since we’re at an altsearchengines meeting, there must be some link with searching here. Well, there is, and not just a mediocre one. You can search within the notebooks as it recognizes text in images. Even handwriting! For example, when I search for San Francisco in my notebook, Evernote finds a screenshot of a Google map I’ve made and highlights the terms:
They don’t offer any syncing with other services like Twitter yet, but Alex told me they will soon start working on some API magic. Although he did tell me that Evernote isn’t that much about sharing and more like a personal service: “It’s your second memory”, he said.
Well here’s some good news for you: we have fifty private beta invites for your memory! Digg this post, leave a comment and I’ll personally email you a link to the sign-up page of Evernote.
Written on April 21, 2008 – 5:19 pm
Ernst-Jan Pfauth, editor in chief
The first guys I met here are Josh and Sum from the young and enthusiastic team of eeggi. They drove six hours from LA to arrive here 7am sharp. And they had all the reason to do that, since they’ve quite an interesting search engine to present. 
They claim it’s the world’s first mathematically-based Search and Retrieve, Response, and Discovery engine (ReDi engine), capable of focusing on the concept of text and not just the text itself”.
So basically, if you searched for an “exciting dvd”, the results would probably also include “breathtaking movie” or “thrilling film”. It reminds me of the iStockphoto’s search engine, that asks you what the meaning of your ambiguous search terms is. Only eeggi will find that out itself.
After five years of protecting and patenting, the guys from eeggi are now ready to “play”. It only took them three months to develop the prototype, which will launch in open beta in a few months. Josh McMillin, the CFO, told me that they’re going in a total different direction than the other alternative search engines. Sounds promising, let’s see how it turns out.
[reported live from the AltSearchEngines event]
Written on April 21, 2008 – 4:54 pm
Boris Veldhuijzen van Zanten,
The first company I met today was Faroo. They are from Germany and Gosia Garbe, the CEO, gave me a quick update on their progress.
Garbe started development on Faroo more than 6 years ago and launched during Techcrunch40 here in San Francisco about a year ago. They are based in Germany. It is a P2P search engine that users install on their PCs, is free to use, as quick as Google and even can earn you some money as revenue is shared with users.
Garbe told me she was slightly disappointed with user adoption (actual downloads) since they launched.
Unfortunately the application only works on PCs and isn’t supported on Mac and Linux and there is no way to test the actual search engine without installing the application first. I can imagine that this requires too big a leap of faith for most users.
The idea of P2P search is interesting though. Google reportedly spends 2 billion a year on their server infrastructure. If a search engine would be able to move all that data to the end user thereby speeding up the service and saving huge amounts of money that would give them a huge edge.
The question is how to entice these users to start contributing to a product that won’t prove its benefit until you start contributing. A chicken and egg problem that Faroo is eager to solve.
[reported live from the AltSearchEngines event]
Written on April 21, 2008 – 3:09 pm
Boris Veldhuijzen van Zanten,
Ernst-Jan and I will be reporting live from the invitation only ‘Alternative Search Engines’ Day‘ event in San Francisco today. The event is organized by altsearchengines.com which is part of the ReadWriteWeb network and blogs daily about search engine news.
They were kind enough to invite us over to their closed event because we have shared a couple of stories in the past and are both eager to find out what the next step in Search will be.
On Monday, April 21st, a unique event will take place as dozens of Alternative Search Engines gather together for one special day organized by them and for them. Panels will be led by HealthPricer, UpTake, SeeqPod, Powerset, KartOO, and AltSearchEngines. There will also be a presentation by GoPubMed. The event is not open to the public - or Google.
What happens when you get dozens of the top alternative search engines in the same room for an entire day? We’ll let you know live and direct from the event!
Update:
Kick-off by Charles Knight, founder of AltSearchEngines.com.
There are 227 alternative search engines right now.
Demo of http://www.sputtr.com/. Multi-Search engine.
Now Symbaloo.com (Dutch Simple Search engine with labels)
Richard MacManus, founder of ReadWriteWeb on stage too.
Question of the day: ‘Is the status quo fine or do we need a new direction?’
Quote: ‘We are frenemies’. The 227 alternative search engines don’t really compete but all have their own niche.
Nitin Karandikar gives us a summary of his Manifesto for cooperation for Alt Search Engines.
Coffee break!
Now on stage: HealthPricer with Spock and SurfCanyon
Enough updates on Al Search Engines for us today. We are now moving on to the Pownce lunch and after that 2 more events which you will read about more here later. More information about this event on Alt Search Engines and ReadWriteWeb!
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